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And what is the opposite of death?
I think this beats the record as the dumbest thread idea on this site.
yay i got it :D
birth i'd guess
ok that's it. you've forced me to make a post again.
Where did god come from then? Out of nothing?
then mega said
We do not know. Jesus was real. So god was real.
First, you're an idiot. Second, i'll explain why. Kay so here's the thing. So you're like, i don't need proof god exists, i just KNOW he does. WTF? That is like saying i don't need to TRY to think, because i KNOW i'm right. That is the thought of an ignorant person who won't take the question: why or how?
2: Now pay attention. If god exists and loves us so much, why doesn't he stop all the bad things? The answer i hear is: because we need to do our part as well, we can't just let him do all the work. Well what about people who work hard, and honest, those people you just say "wow, what a nice guy", and he/she really is. Chances are, this person has never seen any miracles, they know only hardship, they don't see any help from god.
Then there are those people that are horrible people. Most of them experience wonderful luck.
You know yourself that there are people out there, they pray to god, they a hard working, respectful people, and they are having a horrible time in their life. They need help desperately, but guess what? God seems to IGNORE them. Does this seem like a loving god?
Think on that for a moment before replying.
3: On the matter of when God says people were created and how old the Earth is. People lived for thousands of years before that. Dinosaurs lived far beyond when God said the Earth was created. Is this great god of yours lying to you? That's what i see plainly there. People are going to tell me i'm wrong. Just wrong. For no reason, even though i actually am right there.
Why is this? For the same reason i stated earlier. They just 'know' he isn't lying and he exists.
And as i said on my last post, Christians have huge amounts are entries throughout history. 90% of those entries are the terror they cause. What they did to non-believers. Apparently, they didn't actually even listen to their own god, because he told them not to kill. Now they act like this never happened.
4. Miracles... Oh this is a good topic. What would you call a miracle. Most say 'the miracle of life'. That's a bunch of junk. Think of all the people suffering out there. Do you think those starving, homeless, sickly, desperate, miserable people think that their life is a miracle? I didn't think so.
What i consider a miracle is actually leveling up and training my character in Martial Heroes for once. You know why i think that? Because miracles aren't real. That's right, i said it. How many people have experienced miracles? Now, while you're thinking of that i want you to also think of this. Don't forget thinking though! How many people have encountered a stroke of luck and got rich, discovered the one they secretly love loves them back, or figured out something wonderful? If you think about it, the number is just about the same. Thinking about that number now, also think about luck. If you think about it, luck is identical to a miracle. Then only difference is that luck can be bad. Which means, you could have the opposite of a miracle.
EDIT: this means that a 'miracle' is just a mirror of what somebody else is experiencing. As a law of science says: "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".
That's a lot of thinking, and pretty much only i could accomplish it.
Now, if god created everything, he created gravity, each individual element, material, EVERYTHING.
Think about how many things are on this planet. Do you really think god thought up all of those possibilities?
Someone is going to post back to this and tell me some :censored::censored::censored::censored:. My guess is that it'll be waffle.
For the rest - think hard about what you're saying. Are you really sure that's what you believe?
P.S. this isn't all of my thoughts on the topic of said god. i think too much and there's no way you would understand any more of what is here. also, i didn't want to take up too much room.
EDIT: P.S.S. For all the people that have wonderful theories, and are heavy thinkers, email me, i'd love to know that there's someone else out there like me that always thinks about everything they've experienced.
I have to retort to this one, as the only person who seems to have voted "other"
A) The whole idea of faith is that you "believe" in something that you can't prove. If we could prove the existence of whatever deity you worship, then you already have all the answers and don't need him/her anymore.
B) I have personally witnessed miracles. Sometimes small, sometimes large. Truth is, there are a lot of things that happen in this world that you just can't explain away. I've been through many situations in my life that I should not have lived through, but I did. I can site examples, but any scientific mind is going to try to explain them away, so I'm just going to leave it at "They happened".
C) Yes. The doctrine is "Bad things happen to good people". There is more to it than that. The good Christian (I use Christian because of the familiarity, I'm Pagan) is trapped in a fire. He is burned over 90% of body. He is scared, and in constant pain for the rest of his life. His merciful god allowed this to happen. The rest of his life he spends trying to keep this horrible thing from happening to anyone else. Maybe he invents a safe fire-retardant that can be used in the place of asbestos. Maybe he invents a more efficient emergency system. Maybe he just develops better rehabilitation system for those that suffer from the same injuries he does. The important thing is, unless he suffered, he would have never thought to do these things. Not because he's a bad person, but because he never new pain and never thought to try and save others from that pain.
"But why doesn't God just take away the fires?"
Anyone on this board a parent? Then you already know what I'm going to say here.
If we keep our children trapped in a bubble of safety, then they are never going to learn what is dangerous to them. We can't put everything on a 8' shelf and pad the walls, we have to let them learn. We don't let them stick their finger in the light socket, but if they don't listen when we tell them not to, they are going to get hurt and learn.
We have no idea what we are expected to do when we leave this life. I'm willing to wager that whatever it is, isn't safe. If we haven't learned from this life how to, spiritually, deal with these dangers then we aren't going to make it through day one when we die.
Now, after all this is said, I remind you all that I voted "other". I don't believe in the Christian philosophy of "God". I believe that there are multiple gods that have all had their little experiments in creating "Man in their own image". I believe that we did evolve, that the gods simply nudged the gene pool here and there to accomplish their end product (An product that we have not produced yet, I might add). I believe that we, as individuals, have power and that through an understanding of our place in the universe we might tap into this power (We are nowhere close to this...Maybe another 100 generations or so).
Blessed be. Feel free to flame me, I can take it :D
How is "God did it" a more satisfying explanation then "We don't know yet, but maybe someday we will".
At least the "We don't know yet" will inspire people to try to find out.
We don't need any god to explain burn victims... actually, without god they're a lot easier to explain: we're quite capable of burning each other and ourselves.
Of course you can't prove there is no god(s), but if there is, he's either not almighty, or he has a very sick sense of humour.
I guess the question would be, how would you handle things if you were the all powerful?
It might not be that he can't change events so much as it would be unwise.
If GOD exists (im not saying he does or he doesn?t exists), think a little more further, HE created everything, and after the creaton of everything on space, galaxy, the only thing needed was the creation of LIFE. And, OBVIOUSLY, there should be life in other planets, some thats is starting RIGHT NOW, and others who already have involved. Do you think that one day, when the Earth destroy of oldness, is not gonna make any difference? Because: There are many planets RIGHT NOW, being destroyed (Who knows if there is life in it), and is not making any difference, if Earth is destroyed, its only one of the trillions and trillions of plantes that was destroyed. Think a little bit on this. And the galaxy is infinite? It never ends? Even if passes 1 million years from now, we wouln?t know that? Because, there are somethings in life that no one would never know
It is quite possible that there is other life out there, and that there have been entire worlds that have perished, but do we know why?
I think part of the problem with this line of thinking is that it assumes that we, as individuals, are the most important thing in the grand scheme of things. To look at it perspectively, we are not. We are minute cogs in the great machine, and can't even begin to comprehend our place in the universe.
Zen Taoism speaks of the effects of throwing a stone into a smooth body of water. The ripples around the stone itself seem small, but at the edges of the pool they are massive.
like noid said, god may exist, but he has a sick sense of humor.
god meant to burn someone so he would help others? that makes no sense. if god is always with us, why doesn't he speak to the person to do it, without the pain.
you tell me he can't come down and speak with us. so how do you know anything? that little sensation you are imagining must be him to tell you he exists. he has supposedly told other people things before, why not this situation?
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